INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the November 20, 2003 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / IAB Liaison Steve Bellovin / AT&T Michelle Cotton / ICANN Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / Nokia Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the October 30, 2003 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Review of Action Items DONE: o Secretariat to send statement to RFC Editor regarding adding RFC 974 to STD 10. o Secretariat to send a note to the IESG mailing list informing the ADs that the preliminary agenda for the November 20, 2003 IESG Teleconference will be sent on Thursday, November 13, 2003 instead of Friday, November 14. o Barbara Fuller and Harald Alvestrand to discuss the deadline for submission of WG charters for Internal Review during their Tuesday, November 4 conference call. o Harald Alvestrand to send a note to the IETF Announcement list indicating that there was a clerical error in the EDU Team charter announcement, and that the community has two weeks to review the charter. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on applications' expectations on the behavior of the DNS system. o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue. o Harald Alvestrand to write a proposed update to the IESG Teleconference timeline. The update will move submission of items for the preliminary agenda to the Thursday before the teleconference, and will suggest that the ADs inform the IESG when they wish to submit items later than the deadline. NEW: o Steve Bellovin to summarize changes to requirements for RFCs, Internet-Drafts and procedures based on the IPR documents. Steve should report back on the next IESG telechat. o Harald Alvestrand to send a note for the Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor on behalf of the IESG regarding David Jablon's request that the IPR WG guidelines document not be published. o The Secretariat to send the preliminary agenda for the December 4, 2003 IESG Teleconference on Wednesday, November 26, 2003, to accommodate the US Thanksgiving Holiday Weekend. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-lsp-fastreroute-03.txt - 1 of 10 Fast Reroute Extensions to RSVP-TE for LSP Tunnels (Proposed Standard) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-ips-isns-21.txt - 2 of 10 Internet Storage Name Service (iSNS) (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-string-prep-06.txt - 3 of 10 String Profile for iSCSI Names (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-t-ike-07.txt - 4 of 10 Negotiation of NAT-Traversal in the IKE (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Thomas Narten, and Jon Peterson.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-ciph-aes-ccm-04.txt - 5 of 10 Using AES CCM Mode With IPsec ESP (Proposed Standard) Token: Steve Bellovin The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-sipping-mwi-03.txt - 6 of 10 A Message Summary and Message Waiting Indication Event Package for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ned Freed and Jon Peterson.* o draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-08.txt - 7 of 10 The Differentiated Services Configuration MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-aes-xcbc-prf-01.txt - 8 of 10 The AES-XCBC-PRF-128 algorithm for IKE (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pkix-x509-ipaddr-as-extn-03.txt - 9 of 10 X.509 Extensions for IP Addresses and AS Identifiers (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (12/04/03) by Alex Zinin. o draft-ietf-rmonmib-rmon-oid-assignments-00.txt - 10 of 10 IANA guidelines for the registry of rmon MIB modules (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand.* 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-nasreq-13.txt - 1 of 4 Diameter Network Access Server Application (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-pilc-link-design-14.txt - 2 of 4 Advice for Internet Subnetwork Designers (BCP) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-boot-11.txt - 3 of 4 Bootstrapping Clients using the iSCSI Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-ietf-pkix-logotypes-12.txt - 4 of 4 Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Logotypes in X.509 certificates (Proposed Standard) Token: Steve Bellovin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-gellens-format-bis-03.txt - 1 of 1 The Text/Plain Format and DelSp Parameters (Proposed Standard) Token: Ned Freed The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Ned Freed. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-narten-iana-experimental-allocations-05.txt - 1 of 1 Assigning Experimental and Testing Numbers Considered Useful (BCP) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-04.txt - 1 of 9 High-Level Requirements for Internet Voice Mail (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-opes-authorization-02.txt - 2 of 9 Policy, Authorization and Enforcement Requirements of OPES (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-opes-threats-02.txt - 3 of 9 Security Threats and Risks for Open (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-magma-igmpv3-and-routing-05.txt - 4 of 9 IGMPv3/MLDv2 and Multicast Routing Protocol Interaction (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-04.txt - 5 of 9 Mobility Related Terminology (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-trade-voucher-vtsapi-05.txt - 6 of 9 Voucher Trading System Application Programming Interface (VTS-API) (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o Two-document ballot: - 7 of 9 - draft-ietf-isis-ip-interoperable-01.txt Recommendations for Interoperable IP Networks using IS-IS (Informational) - draft-ietf-isis-iso-interoperable-01.txt Recommendations for Interoperable Networks using IS-IS (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The documents were approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-09.txt - 8 of 9 IPSec Policy Information Base (Informational) Token: Steve Bellovin The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-sipping-aaa-req-03.txt - 9 of 9 Authentication, Authorization and Accounting Requirements for the Session Initiation Protocol (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-nsis-req-09.txt - 1 of 4 Requirements for Signaling Protocols (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-name-disc-10.txt - 2 of 4 iSCSI Naming and Discovery (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ipsec-dpd-04.txt - 3 of 4 A Traffic-Based Method of Detecting Dead IKE Peers (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-magma-snoop-10.txt - 4 of 4 Considerations for IGMP and MLD Snooping Switches (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item NONE 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2.3 To be assigned o draft-earnshaw-tv-anytime-crid-01.txt The TV-Anytime Content Reference Identifier (CRID)Uniform Resource Locator (Informational) The document was assigned to Jon Peterson. 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-rmcgowan-unicode-procs-03.txt - 1 of 3 A Summary of Unicode Consortium Procedures, Policies, Stability, and Public Access (Informational) Token: Harald Alvestrand The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-klensin-name-filters-03.txt - 2 of 3 User Interface Evaluation and Filtering of Internet Addresses and Locators -or- Syntaxes for Common Namespaces (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor. o draft-irtf-nsrg-report-10.txt - 3 of 3 What's In A Name:Thoughts from the NSRG (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Russ Housley. 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-02.txt - 1 of 1 Dynamic Mobile IP Key Update for cdma2000(R) Networks (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Credential and Provisioning (enroll) - 1 of 1 Token: Russ Housley The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use Leslie Daigle reported that the IAB delivered their response to the Tony Hain appeal and did not uphold it. The IAB's decision was announced on November 17, 2003. The IAB received an acknowledgement from Tony on November 18, 2003. 7. Management Issues 7.1 EDU Team Charter (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. The EDU Team Charter has been approved. 7.2 Telechat Timeline (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was not discussed. The Secretariat will place this management issue on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (12/04/03). 7.3 Appeal from Dave Meyer regarding the closing of the GROW working group. (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. Leslie Daigle and Rob Austein left the teleconference prior to the discussion. The IESG decided that it would reach a decision via e-mail, and send a response before the next IESG Teleconference (12/04/03). The IESG instructed the Secretariat not to take action on closing the working group until after the decision on the appeal is made. 7.4 David Jablon and IPR WG guidelines (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed, and Harald Alvestrand undertook to draft a note to send to the RFC Editor on behalf of the IESG instructing the RFC Editor to go ahead with publication. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.