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	<front>	<front>

	<title>IETF Community Moderation</title>	<title abbrev="IETF Community Moderation">IETF Community Moderation</title>
	<seriesInfo name="Internet-Draft" value="draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-1	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="9945"/>
	6"/>	<seriesInfo name="bcp" value="245"/>
	<author initials="L." surname="Eggert" fullname="Lars Eggert" role="editor">	<author initials="L." surname="Eggert" fullname="Lars Eggert" role="editor">
	<organization>Mozilla</organization>	<organization>Mozilla</organization>
	<address>	<address>
	<postal>	<postal>
	<street>Stenbergintie 12 B</street>	<street>Stenbergintie 12 B</street>
	<city>Kauniainen</city>	<city>Kauniainen</city>
	<code>02700</code>	<code>02700</code>
	<country>FI</country>	<country>FI</country>
	</postal>	</postal>
	<email>lars@eggert.org</email>	<email>lars@eggert.org</email>

	<uri><https://eggert.org/></uri>	<uri>https://eggert.org/</uri>
	</address>	</address>
	</author>	</author>
	<author initials="E." surname="Lear" fullname="Eliot Lear" role="editor">	<author initials="E." surname="Lear" fullname="Eliot Lear" role="editor">
	<organization>Cisco Systems</organization>	<organization>Cisco Systems</organization>
	<address>	<address>
	<postal>	<postal>
	<street>Richtistrasse 7</street>	<street>Richtistrasse 7</street>
	<city>Wallisellen</city>	<city>Wallisellen</city>
	<code>8304</code>	<code>8304</code>
	<country>Switzerland</country>	<country>Switzerland</country>
	</postal>	</postal>
	<phone>+41 44 878 9200</phone>	<phone>+41 44 878 9200</phone>
	<email>lear@lear.ch</email>	<email>lear@lear.ch</email>
	</address>	</address>
	</author>	</author>

	<date year="2026" month="February" day="09"/>	<date year="2026" month="February"/>
		<area>GEN</area>
		<workgroup>modpod</workgroup>
	<abstract>	<abstract>

	<?line 73?>	<?line 75?>

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		retired (BCPs are not obsoleted).
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		<!-- [rfced] We suggest updating the text below to clarify that the team will
		be working with the chairs and administrators to implement the
		procedures. Please review.

		Original:
		That team will develop a set of moderation
		procedures and facilitate their consistent implementation with chairs
		and administrators.

		Perhaps:
		That team will develop a set of moderation
		procedures and work with the chairs and administrators to facilitate
		their consistent implementation.
		-->

	<t>The IETF community will treat people with kindness and grace, but not endless patience.</t>	<t>The IETF community will treat people with kindness and grace, but not endless patience.</t>

	<t>This memo obsoletes RFCs 3683 and 3934, and it updates RFCs 2418 and 92 45	<t>This memo obsoletes RFCs 3683 and 3934, and it updates RFCs 2418 and 92 45 by
	establishing a policy for the moderation of disruptive	establishing a policy for the moderation of disruptive
	participation	participation
	across the IETF's various public contribution channels and discussion fora.	across the IETF's various public contribution channels and discussion fora.
	It establishes guardrails	It establishes guardrails
	for moderation and a moderator team. That team will develop a	for moderation and a moderator team. That team will develop a
	set of moderation procedures and facilitate their consistent implementation with	set of moderation procedures and facilitate their consistent implementation with
	chairs and administrators.</t>	chairs and administrators.</t>
	</abstract>	</abstract>

	<note removeInRFC="true">
	<name>About This Document</name>
	<t>
	The latest revision of this draft can be found at <eref target="https://
	larseggert.github.io/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/draft-ietf-modpod-group-p
	rocesses.html"/>.
	Status information for this document may be found at <eref target="https
	://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/"/>.
	</t>
	<t>
	Discussion of this document takes place on the
	mod-discuss Working Group mailing list (<eref target="mailto:mod-discuss
	@ietf.org"/>),
	which is archived at <eref target="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/bro
	wse/mod-discuss/"/>.
	Subscribe at <eref target="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mod-dis
	cuss/"/>.
	</t>
	<t>Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
	<eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-proc
	esses"/>.</t>
	</note>
	</front>	</front>
	<middle>	<middle>

	<?line 85?>	<?line 118?>

	<section anchor="introduction">	<section anchor="introduction">
	<name>Introduction</name>	<name>Introduction</name>
	<t>This memo establishes a policy for the moderation of disruptive	<t>This memo establishes a policy for the moderation of disruptive
	participation	participation
	across the IETF's various public online contribution channels and discussion for a.	across the IETF's various public online contribution channels and discussion for a.
	It creates a	It creates a
	moderator team to develop procedures and to facilitate their consistent	moderator team to develop procedures and to facilitate their consistent
	application.</t>	application.</t>
	<t>This memo obsoletes and updates some prior IETF processes, summarized h ere.	<t>This memo obsoletes and updates some prior IETF processes, summarized h ere.
	Background information is described in more detail in <xref target="motivation"/ >.</t>	Background information is described in more detail in <xref target="motivation"/ >.</t>

	<t>This memo makes the following changes to existing processes:</t>	<!-- [rfced] Please review "moderator team replaces the IETF discussion li
		st
		moderation team" and let us know if any updates would be helpful for clarity.

		Original:
		* Obsoletes Section 3 of [RFC9245] and the second paragraph of
		Section 4 of [RFC9245], as the moderator team replaces the IETF
		discussion list moderation team.

		Perhaps:
		* Obsoletes Section 3 of [RFC9245] and the second paragraph of
		Section 4 of [RFC9245], as the IETF moderator team defined in this documen
		t
		replaces the IETF discussion list moderator team.
		-->

		<t>This memo makes the following changes to existing processes:</t>
	<ul spacing="normal">	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Obsoletes <xref target="RFC3683"/> as the "posting rights" (PR) act ion it defines	<t>Obsoletes <xref target="RFC3683"/> as the "posting rights" (PR) act ion it defines

	are replaced by processes defined herein;</t>	is replaced by processes defined herein;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Obsoletes <xref target="RFC3934"/> as it replaces working group mod eration	<t>Obsoletes <xref target="RFC3934"/> as it replaces working group mod eration
	procedures;</t>	procedures;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Obsoletes <xref section="3" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC9245"/> a nd the second paragraph of	<t>Obsoletes <xref section="3" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC9245"/> a nd the second paragraph of
	<xref section="4" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC9245"/>, as the moderator team r eplaces the	<xref section="4" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC9245"/>, as the moderator team r eplaces the
	IETF discussion list moderation team.</t>	IETF discussion list moderation team.</t>
	</li>	</li>

	skipping to change at line 115 ¶	skipping to change at line 149 ¶
	<t>The processes described in this memo are solely applicable to IETF	<t>The processes described in this memo are solely applicable to IETF
	activities, and not to other related organizations, such as	activities, and not to other related organizations, such as
	the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF),	the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF),
	the Internet Architecture Board (IAB),	the Internet Architecture Board (IAB),
	the RFC Series Working Group (RSWG), the RFC Series Approval Board (RSAB),	the RFC Series Working Group (RSWG), the RFC Series Approval Board (RSAB),
	or the Independent RFC Submission Stream, without their explicit agreement.	or the Independent RFC Submission Stream, without their explicit agreement.
	These changes take effect when the procedures described	These changes take effect when the procedures described
	in <xref target="prod"/> have been approved by the IESG.</t>	in <xref target="prod"/> have been approved by the IESG.</t>
	<section anchor="terminology-note">	<section anchor="terminology-note">
	<name>Terminology Note</name>	<name>Terminology Note</name>

	<t>Below, the term "administrator" refers to the people who	<t>In this document, the term "administrator" refers to the people who
	are assigned by the IESG to manage a particular public participation	are assigned by the IESG to manage a particular public participation
	channel or discussion forum. This memo uses the term "forum"	channel or discussion forum. This memo uses the term "forum"
	to refer to any public IETF participation channel, such as a mailing list,	to refer to any public IETF participation channel, such as a mailing list,
	chat group, or discussion in a collaborative tool such as GitHub or	chat group, or discussion in a collaborative tool such as GitHub or
	GitLab. For example, working	GitLab. For example, working
	group chairs are administrators of all the public fora that their working groups	group chairs are administrators of all the public fora that their working groups
	use, which typically includes mailing lists and chat groups, but might	use, which typically includes mailing lists and chat groups, but might

	also include collaborative tools such as GitHub or GitLab. Another example	also include collaborative tools such as GitHub or GitLab.
	of administrators are the "owners" of non-WG IETF mailing lists.</t>	The "owners" of non-WG IETF mailing lists are another example of administrators.
		</t>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="genphil">	<section anchor="genphil">
	<name>General Philosophy</name>	<name>General Philosophy</name>

	<t>This policy's cornerstone is that individuals are responsible for	<t>This cornerstone of this policy is that individuals are responsible f or
	furthering the goals of the IETF as an organization <xref target="RFC3935"/>	furthering the goals of the IETF as an organization <xref target="RFC3935"/>
	in a manner consistent with the policy laid out in <xref target="RFC7154"/>.</t>	in a manner consistent with the policy laid out in <xref target="RFC7154"/>.</t>
	<t>Disagreement and diverse points of view within any standards organiza tion	<t>Disagreement and diverse points of view within any standards organiza tion

	are to be expected, and are even healthy.	are to be expected and are even healthy.
	The IETF is an open standards organization with a discussion-based rough	The IETF is an open standards organization with a discussion-based rough
	consensus process, a non-normative description of which is in <xref target="RFC7 282"/>.	consensus process, a non-normative description of which is in <xref target="RFC7 282"/>.
	Engaged, respectful discussion that is within the scope of an IETF forum	Engaged, respectful discussion that is within the scope of an IETF forum
	should therefore not be considered disruptive,	should therefore not be considered disruptive,
	nor should someone be considered disruptive solely because they are outside	nor should someone be considered disruptive solely because they are outside
	the rough consensus.	the rough consensus.
	However, when someone crosses the line	However, when someone crosses the line

	into disruptive behavior, some action must be taken in order to maintain	into disruptive behavior, action must be taken in order to maintain
	decorum of the community.</t>	decorum of the community.</t>
	<t>The moderation policy goals are as follows:</t>	<t>The moderation policy goals are as follows:</t>

	<ul spacing="normal">	<!-- [rfced] We updated this bullet item for parallelism with the rest o
		f the
		list (i.e., each starts with a verb). Would you like to further update to the
		suggestion listed under "Perhaps" below?

		Original (surrounding text provided for context):
		The moderation policy goals are as follows:

		* Apply consistent, fair, and timely moderation of communication
		across all public online IETF participation channels and
		participation fora without regard to a participant's role in the
		IETF or previous technical contributions;

		* Appeals are available to address disagreements about moderation
		actions;

		Updated:
		* Ensure appeals are available to address disagreements about moderation
		actions;

		Perhaps:
		* Ensure an appeals path is available to address disagreements about moderat
		ion
		actions;
		-->

		<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Apply consistent, fair, and timely moderation of communication ac ross all public	<t>Apply consistent, fair, and timely moderation of communication ac ross all public
	online IETF participation channels and participation fora	online IETF participation channels and participation fora
	without regard to a participant's role in the IETF or previous technical	without regard to a participant's role in the IETF or previous technical
	contributions;</t>	contributions;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Appeals are available to address disagreements about moderation a ctions;</t>	<t>Ensure appeals are available to address disagreements about moder ation actions;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Balance transparency against both privacy of individuals involved and further	<t>Balance transparency against both privacy of individuals involved and further
	disruption to the community;</t>	disruption to the community;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Allow moderation decisions to be reconsidered; and</t>	<t>Allow moderation decisions to be reconsidered; and</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Provide the broadest possible latitude to all people doing modera tion, so	<t>Provide the broadest possible latitude to all people doing modera tion, so
	that they have the flexibility to address a broad range of individuals	that they have the flexibility to address a broad range of individuals
	and circumstances.</t>	and circumstances.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	</ul>	</ul>

	<t>Questions about processes detailed below should be answered through t	<!-- [rfced] For readability, we suggest the following update. Please r
	he lens	eview.

		Original:
		Questions about processes detailed below should be answered through
		the lens of these aims.

		Perhaps:
		Questions about the processes detailed below should be answered with these
		goals in mind.
		-->

		<t>Questions about the processes detailed below should be answered through the l
		ens
	of these aims.</t>	of these aims.</t>

	<t>The goal is explicitly <strong>not</strong> punishment, but to mainta	<!-- [rfced] We recommend stating the main point first, as opposed to wh
	in an open, welcoming,	at
	non-hostile environment in which all may participate on an equal footing,	it is not, so we suggest the following update. Please review.
	regardless of their role in the IETF or past technical contributions.</t>
		Original:
		The goal is explicitly not punishment, but to maintain an open,
		welcoming, non-hostile environment in which all may participate on an
		equal footing, regardless of their role in the IETF or past technical
		contributions.

		Perhaps:
		The objective is to maintain an open,
		welcoming, non-hostile environment in which all may participate on an
		equal footing, regardless of their role in the IETF or past technical
		contributions; it is explicitly not intended as a punishment.
		-->

		<t>The objective is explicitly <strong>not</strong> punishment, but to maintain
		an open,
		welcoming, non-hostile environment in which all may participate on an
		equal footing, regardless of their role in the IETF or past technical
		contributions.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="ietf-moderator-team">	<section anchor="ietf-moderator-team">
	<name>IETF Moderator Team</name>	<name>IETF Moderator Team</name>
	<t>This memo defines a consistent approach to moderating the	<t>This memo defines a consistent approach to moderating the
	IETF's various public online fora. A moderator team for the IETF	IETF's various public online fora. A moderator team for the IETF
	will develop and maintain guidelines for moderation and will facilitate	will develop and maintain guidelines for moderation and will facilitate
	their consistent implementation and application as detailed below.	their consistent implementation and application as detailed below.
	These changes are intended to address the issues identified	These changes are intended to address the issues identified

	in the previous model <xref target="motive"/> and the principles described in th e	in the previous model (see <xref target="motive"/>) and the principles described in the
	introduction.</t>	introduction.</t>
	<section anchor="composition">	<section anchor="composition">
	<name>Composition</name>	<name>Composition</name>
	<t>The IESG appoints and recalls moderators.	<t>The IESG appoints and recalls moderators.
	The moderator team initially consists of no fewer than five individuals.	The moderator team initially consists of no fewer than five individuals.
	The moderator team may expand or contract	The moderator team may expand or contract
	based on operational experience.	based on operational experience.
	In selecting members, the IESG will take into	In selecting members, the IESG will take into
	account geographic coverage, expected and unexpected absences, and	account geographic coverage, expected and unexpected absences, and
	team diversity.</t>	team diversity.</t>

	<t>Because the IESG and IAB are in the appeals chain for moderator team	<!-- [rfced] Should "LLC Board" and "LLC staff and contractors" be updat
		ed to
		"IETF LLC Board" and "IETF LLC staff and contractors" (i.e., include "IETF")?

		Original:
		Individuals serving on other
		bodies to which the NomCom appoints members, such as the IETF Trust
		or the LLC Board, as well as LLC staff and contractors shall also be
		excluded from serving on the moderator team.

		Perhaps:
		Individuals serving on other
		bodies to which the NomCom appoints members, such as the IETF Trust
		or the IETF LLC Board, as well as IETF LLC staff and contractors shall also b
		e
		excluded from serving on the moderator team.
		-->

		<t>Because the IESG and IAB are in the appeals chain for moderator team
	decisions (see <xref target="appeals"/>), the IESG must not appoint a	decisions (see <xref target="appeals"/>), the IESG must not appoint a
	moderator who is serving on the IESG or IAB. Individuals serving on	moderator who is serving on the IESG or IAB. Individuals serving on
	other bodies to which the NomCom appoints members, such as the IETF	other bodies to which the NomCom appoints members, such as the IETF

	Trust or the LLC Board, as well as LLC staff and contractors shall	Trust or the LLC Board, as well as LLC staff and contractors, shall
	also be excluded from serving on the moderator team. If a moderator	also be excluded from serving on the moderator team. If a moderator

	is assuming any such role, they shall step down from the moderator team	assumes any such role, they shall step down from the moderator team
	soon after.</t>	soon after.</t>
	<section anchor="team-diversity">	<section anchor="team-diversity">
	<name>Team Diversity</name>	<name>Team Diversity</name>
	<t>Due to the global nature of the IETF, the membership of this team	<t>Due to the global nature of the IETF, the membership of this team
	should reflect a diversity of time zones and other participant	should reflect a diversity of time zones and other participant
	characteristics that lets it operate effectively around the clock and	characteristics that lets it operate effectively around the clock and
	throughout the year. Ideally, the moderators should be able to	throughout the year. Ideally, the moderators should be able to
	respond to issues within a few hours.</t>	respond to issues within a few hours.</t>

	<t>Team diversity is also important to ensure any participant observin	<!-- [rfced] Should this sentence mention those experiencing disruptiv
	g	e
		behavior (not just those observing it)? Also, would updating "is also
		important to ensure" to "also improves the likelihood" (or similar) improve
		this sentence?

		Original:
		Team diversity is also important to ensure any participant observing
		disruptive behavior can identify a moderator they feel comfortable
		contacting.

		Perhaps:
		Team diversity also improves the likelihood that any participant experiencing
		or observing disruptive behavior can identify a moderator they feel comfortab
		le
		contacting.
		-->

		<t>Team diversity is also important to ensure any participant observing
	disruptive behavior can identify a moderator they feel comfortable	disruptive behavior can identify a moderator they feel comfortable
	contacting.</t>	contacting.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="training">	<section anchor="training">
	<name>Training</name>	<name>Training</name>
	<t>The IETF is committed to providing and/or funding training for	<t>The IETF is committed to providing and/or funding training for
	administrators and moderators as necessary. The IESG will	administrators and moderators as necessary. The IESG will
	negotiate any required funding or resources with IETF Administration	negotiate any required funding or resources with IETF Administration
	LLC <xref target="RFC8711"/>.</t>	LLC <xref target="RFC8711"/>.</t>

	skipping to change at line 228 ¶	skipping to change at line 346 ¶
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="scope-and-responsibilities">	<section anchor="scope-and-responsibilities">
	<name>Scope and Responsibilities</name>	<name>Scope and Responsibilities</name>
	<t>This policy applies to all public online IETF fora, both present and	<t>This policy applies to all public online IETF fora, both present and
	future, including, but not limited to, mailing lists, chat groups,	future, including, but not limited to, mailing lists, chat groups,
	and discussions in other systems that the IETF or WGs have chosen to	and discussions in other systems that the IETF or WGs have chosen to
	employ, such as GitHub repositories, wikis, or issue trackers.</t>	employ, such as GitHub repositories, wikis, or issue trackers.</t>
	<t>Different people have different moderation responsibilities:</t>	<t>Different people have different moderation responsibilities:</t>
	<ul spacing="normal">	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>	<li>

	<t><strong>Participants</strong> should always behave in a manner disc ussed in	<t><strong>Participants</strong> should always behave in the manner di scussed in
	<xref target="genphil"/>. They are also encouraged to report disruptive behavio r	<xref target="genphil"/>. They are also encouraged to report disruptive behavio r
	directed at them or someone else to an administrator of the respective	directed at them or someone else to an administrator of the respective
	forum <strong>and</strong> the moderators.</t>	forum <strong>and</strong> the moderators.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t><strong>Administrators</strong> are primarily responsible for manag ing their fora in	<t><strong>Administrators</strong> are primarily responsible for manag ing their fora in
	accordance with procedures developed by the moderators and approved by	accordance with procedures developed by the moderators and approved by
	the IESG. As such, they shall address reports of disruptive behavior	the IESG. As such, they shall address reports of disruptive behavior
	in a timely fashion, apprising moderators of reports or actions taken.	in a timely fashion, apprising moderators of reports or actions taken.
	Administrators may amend or rescind actions, including those taken by	Administrators may amend or rescind actions, including those taken by
	members of the moderation team <strong>after</strong> they have consulted with t hat team. </t>	members of the moderation team <strong>after</strong> they have consulted with t hat team. </t>
	<t>	<t>
	For a working group, chairs are by default the administrators. They may	For a working group, chairs are by default the administrators. They may

	delegate this responsibility in the same vein as <xref section="6.4" sectionForm at="of" target="RFC2418"/>	delegate this responsibility in the same vein as <xref section="6.4" sectionForm at="of" target="RFC2418"/>,
	but they must always accept, acknowledge,	but they must always accept, acknowledge,
	and keep track of complaints of disruptive behavior.	and keep track of complaints of disruptive behavior.
	Forum administrators should perform moderation in a way that	Forum administrators should perform moderation in a way that
	obviates the need for moderator team involvement.</t>	obviates the need for moderator team involvement.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t><strong>Moderators</strong> are responsible for establishing proced ures to	<t><strong>Moderators</strong> are responsible for establishing proced ures to
	address moderation needs across all IETF fora, both present and	address moderation needs across all IETF fora, both present and
	future. They are a resource that the community	future. They are a resource that the community
	can use to address disruptive behavior.	can use to address disruptive behavior.
	The moderator team is responsible to the IESG. The IESG	The moderator team is responsible to the IESG. The IESG
	will create or designate a forum to facilitate discussion about	will create or designate a forum to facilitate discussion about

	moderation, and refer interested parties to that forum. </t>	moderation and refer interested parties to that forum. </t>
	<t>	<t>
	Moderators may take actions when administrators do not respond to	Moderators may take actions when administrators do not respond to
	reports in a timely fashion. Their first action should generally be	reports in a timely fashion. Their first action should generally be
	to attempt to contact and advise the relevant administrators.	to attempt to contact and advise the relevant administrators.
	They should only take	They should only take

	moderation actions when administrators are not responsive, or when	moderation actions when administrators are not responsive or when
	someone disrupts multiple fora at the same time. Moderators should	someone disrupts multiple fora at the same time. Moderators should
	generally give WG chairs the opportunity to	generally give WG chairs the opportunity to
	manage what may be difficult and contentious debates within their	manage what may be difficult and contentious debates within their
	groups. Within the bounds of this principle, it is left to	groups. Within the bounds of this principle, it is left to
	moderators' judgment to determine when they must act, with the	moderators' judgment to determine when they must act, with the
	understanding that some situations may require fast responses.	understanding that some situations may require fast responses.
	Moderators must notify administrators of any actions they take.	Moderators must notify administrators of any actions they take.
	<xref target="appeals"/> discusses the handling of disagreements. </t>	<xref target="appeals"/> discusses the handling of disagreements. </t>
	<t>	<t>
	Moderators are administrators for IETF	Moderators are administrators for IETF

	plenary fora, currently including the IETF discussion and last-call	plenary fora, currently including the IETF discussion and Last Call
	lists and any plenary chat sessions. They are also administrators for	lists and any plenary chat sessions. They are also administrators for
	any forum that does not otherwise have an administrator. </t>	any forum that does not otherwise have an administrator. </t>
	<t>	<t>
	In order to scale the function, except for plenary fora as described	In order to scale the function, except for plenary fora as described
	above, moderators are not expected to always actively monitor	above, moderators are not expected to always actively monitor
	all communications. In general, they will process reports from	all communications. In general, they will process reports from
	participants.</t>	participants.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t><strong>Area Directors</strong> are expected to resolve conflicts a s described here and	<t><strong>Area directors</strong> are expected to resolve conflicts a s described here and
	in <xref target="appeals"/>. The IESG will periodically evaluate the performanc e	in <xref target="appeals"/>. The IESG will periodically evaluate the performanc e
	and needs of moderators, and may appoint and recall moderators as	and needs of moderators, and may appoint and recall moderators as
	they deem appropriate. Apart from that,	they deem appropriate. Apart from that,
	the IESG shall refrain from the day-to-day operation	the IESG shall refrain from the day-to-day operation
	and management of the moderator team. The moderators may	and management of the moderator team. The moderators may
	consult with the IESG when needed.</t>	consult with the IESG when needed.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	</ul>	</ul>
	<section anchor="actions-that-are-out-of-scope">	<section anchor="actions-that-are-out-of-scope">
	<name>Actions That Are Out of Scope</name>	<name>Actions That Are Out of Scope</name>

	skipping to change at line 307 ¶	skipping to change at line 425 ¶
	virtual, or hybrid	virtual, or hybrid
	meeting participation; content removal or redaction; and moderation or	meeting participation; content removal or redaction; and moderation or
	policing of private or non-IETF communications.	policing of private or non-IETF communications.
	While the moderator team does not moderate non-public IETF mailing	While the moderator team does not moderate non-public IETF mailing
	lists, the administrators of such lists can choose to adopt some of the	lists, the administrators of such lists can choose to adopt some of the
	procedures that the moderator team develops.</t>	procedures that the moderator team develops.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="unsolicited-bulk-messages">	<section anchor="unsolicited-bulk-messages">
	<name>Unsolicited Bulk Messages</name>	<name>Unsolicited Bulk Messages</name>
	<t>Unsolicited bulk messages are considered disruptive and should be han dled in a	<t>Unsolicited bulk messages are considered disruptive and should be han dled in a

	manner consistent with the IESG statement on IETF Spam Control on IETF	manner consistent with the "IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists
	Mailing Lists<xref target="IESG-SPAM"/>, or its successors. Administrators and	"
	moderators	<xref target="IESG-SPAM"/> or its successors. Administrators and moderators
	may take similar actions in other fora (e.g., GitHub or Instant Messaging).	may take similar actions in other fora (e.g., GitHub or instant messaging).
	Such actions require no additional reporting.</t>	Such actions require no additional reporting.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="prod">	<section anchor="prod">
	<name>Moderation Procedures and Transparency</name>	<name>Moderation Procedures and Transparency</name>
	<t>Within the bounds of the policies set herein, the moderator team shall develop	<t>Within the bounds of the policies set herein, the moderator team shall develop
	and maintain procedures and criteria relating to moderation, including	and maintain procedures and criteria relating to moderation, including
	the moderator team's own operating procedures.</t>	the moderator team's own operating procedures.</t>
	<t>Those procedures and criteria shall be developed with community input,	<t>Those procedures and criteria shall be developed with community input,
	be approved by the IESG prior to going into effect,	be approved by the IESG prior to going into effect,

	and be made public. However, they need not be documented in the RFC series. Th is	and be made public. However, they need not be documented in the RFC Series. Th is
	shall be the first task for the moderator team. Until	shall be the first task for the moderator team. Until
	those procedures and criteria are established, all previous processes	those procedures and criteria are established, all previous processes
	referenced in <xref target="introduction"/> shall remain in effect.</t>	referenced in <xref target="introduction"/> shall remain in effect.</t>
	<t>The intent of this memo is to provide the widest possible freedom of	<t>The intent of this memo is to provide the widest possible freedom of
	action to administrators and moderators, with the expectation that	action to administrators and moderators, with the expectation that
	the minimal actions necessary will be taken. Those who are directed	the minimal actions necessary will be taken. Those who are directed
	to stop disrupting a forum must do so immediately.	to stop disrupting a forum must do so immediately.
	Further disruptions may lead to further corrective actions.</t>	Further disruptions may lead to further corrective actions.</t>
	<t>Examples of actions that could be taken include:</t>	<t>Examples of actions that could be taken include:</t>
	<ul spacing="normal">	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Automated rate limiting mechanisms;</t>	<t>Automated rate-limiting mechanisms;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Review and approval of submissions/messages;</t>	<t>Review and approval of submissions/messages;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>A private or public admonishment;</t>	<t>A private or public admonishment;</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Temporary or indefinite suspension of participation privileges	<t>Temporary or indefinite suspension of participation privileges
	in one or more fora.</t>	in one or more fora.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	</ul>	</ul>

	<t>These are only examples, and not in any way	<t>These are only examples and are not in any way
	prescriptive. Administrators and moderators are free to decide on	prescriptive. Administrators and moderators are free to decide on
	these or other actions.</t>	these or other actions.</t>
	<t>All moderation actions that restrict participation	<t>All moderation actions that restrict participation
	privileges shall be immediately reported to those against	privileges shall be immediately reported to those against
	whom those actions take effect, to relevant administrators,	whom those actions take effect, to relevant administrators,
	and to the moderator team for	and to the moderator team for
	their review. They shall also be periodically reported to	their review. They shall also be periodically reported to
	the IESG.</t>	the IESG.</t>

	<t>Only moderation actions suspending participation privileges for longer	<!-- [rfced] May we update this sentence as follows to improve clarity?
	than
		Original:
		Only moderation actions suspending participation privileges for
		longer than fourteen (14) days must be reported to the forum to which
		such an action applies, or in any event, at the request of the
		suspended person.

		Perhaps:
		At the request of the suspended individual, moderation actions that suspend
		participation privileges are to be reported to the forum to which such an
		action applies. Otherwise, only suspensions longer than fourteen (14) days
		must be reported to the relevant forum.
		-->

		<t>Only moderation actions suspending participation privileges for longer than
	fourteen (14) days must be reported to the forum to which such an action applies ,	fourteen (14) days must be reported to the forum to which such an action applies ,
	or in any event, at the request of the suspended person.	or in any event, at the request of the suspended person.
	If such an action applies to more than one forum, it should be communicated to	If such an action applies to more than one forum, it should be communicated to
	the community in a manner decided by the IESG.</t>	the community in a manner decided by the IESG.</t>
	<t>Moderators will periodically provide an aggregate report to the communi ty on	<t>Moderators will periodically provide an aggregate report to the communi ty on
	actions taken under this policy.</t>	actions taken under this policy.</t>
	<section anchor="appeals">	<section anchor="appeals">
	<name>Consistency and Conflict Resolution</name>	<name>Consistency and Conflict Resolution</name>
	<t>Administrators and moderators shall act in a manner	<t>Administrators and moderators shall act in a manner
	consistent with this memo and the guidelines approved by the IESG. In cases	consistent with this memo and the guidelines approved by the IESG. In cases
	of disagreement over a moderation decision, anyone may take the matter up	of disagreement over a moderation decision, anyone may take the matter up

	with the responsible Area Director for resolution, or with the IETF chair	with the responsible area director for resolution, or with the IETF Chair
	if a responsible Area Director cannot be determined or is not assigned.	if a responsible area director cannot be determined or is not assigned.
	If the disagreement cannot be resolved by the Area Director, that person may	If the disagreement cannot be resolved by the area director, that person may
	then appeal to the IESG, and subsequently to the IAB using the processes	then appeal to the IESG and subsequently to the IAB using the processes
	stated in Sections <xref target="RFC2026" section="6.5.1" sectionFormat="bare"/> and <xref target="RFC2026" section="6.5.4" sectionFormat="bare"/> of <xref targ et="RFC2026"/>.</t>	stated in Sections <xref target="RFC2026" section="6.5.1" sectionFormat="bare"/> and <xref target="RFC2026" section="6.5.4" sectionFormat="bare"/> of <xref targ et="RFC2026"/>.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="reinstatement">	<section anchor="reinstatement">
	<name>Reinstatement</name>	<name>Reinstatement</name>
	<t>People and circumstances change. Individuals whose participation	<t>People and circumstances change. Individuals whose participation
	privileges have been indefinitely suspended from a forum may request	privileges have been indefinitely suspended from a forum may request
	reinstatement.	reinstatement.
	Requests for reinstatement	Requests for reinstatement

	may be made no earlier than a year after the initial decision, and then	may be made no earlier than a year after the initial decision and then
	only annually afterward.</t>	only annually afterward.</t>
	<t>Any such request must be	<t>Any such request must be
	directed to the entity who made the decision (e.g., moderator team,	directed to the entity who made the decision (e.g., moderator team,
	working group chairs, etc.) or their successors. That party may at	working group chairs, etc.) or their successors. That party may at
	their discretion	their discretion
	reinstate someone, conditionally or unconditionally.</t>	reinstate someone, conditionally or unconditionally.</t>
	<t>To avoid	<t>To avoid
	denial-of-service attacks on IETF processes, decisions to not reinstate	denial-of-service attacks on IETF processes, decisions to not reinstate
	someone's participation privileges may not be appealed.	someone's participation privileges may not be appealed.
	Any reinstatement is a grace and not a right.</t>	Any reinstatement is a grace and not a right.</t>
	<t>A suspension of participation privileges imposed prior to this proces s	<t>A suspension of participation privileges imposed prior to this proces s
	shall be reconsidered only in	shall be reconsidered only in
	accordance with the processes in place at the time of the suspension,	accordance with the processes in place at the time of the suspension,
	even if the corresponding RFC has been formally obsoleted.</t>	even if the corresponding RFC has been formally obsoleted.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="relationship-to-other-ietf-functions">	<section anchor="relationship-to-other-ietf-functions">

	<name>Relationship to other IETF functions</name>	<name>Relationship to Other IETF Functions</name>
	<section anchor="relation-to-the-ombudsteam">	<section anchor="relation-to-the-ombudsteam">
	<name>Relation to the Ombudsteam</name>	<name>Relation to the Ombudsteam</name>

	<t>Administrators and moderators shall complement the efforts of the IET	<!-- [rfced] What does "operation" refer to? [OT] does not mention
	F	"operation". Perhaps this refers to "operating practices" or "operational
	ombudsteam <xref target="OT"/>, whose focus on anti-harassment and operation	procedures" as used in RFC 7776?

		Original:
		Administrators and moderators shall complement the efforts of the
		IETF ombudsteam [OT], whose focus on anti-harassment and operation
		shall remain unchanged.

		Perhaps A:
		Administrators and moderators shall complement the efforts of the
		IETF Ombudsteam [OT], whose focus on anti-harassment and operations
		remain unchanged.

		Perhaps B:
		Administrators and moderators shall complement the efforts of the
		IETF Ombudsteam [OT], whose focus on anti-harassment and operational processe
		s
		remain unchanged.
		-->

		<t>Administrators and moderators shall complement the efforts of the IETF
		Ombudsteam <xref target="OT"/>, whose focus on anti-harassment and operation
	shall remain unchanged. Administrators and moderators should always	shall remain unchanged. Administrators and moderators should always
	report suspected harassment. They should nonetheless take any	report suspected harassment. They should nonetheless take any
	necessary actions regarding disruptive behavior.</t>	necessary actions regarding disruptive behavior.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="relation-to-the-ietf-llc">	<section anchor="relation-to-the-ietf-llc">
	<name>Relation to the IETF LLC</name>	<name>Relation to the IETF LLC</name>
	<t>The Board of Directors of the IETF Administration LLC (IETF LLC) has	<t>The Board of Directors of the IETF Administration LLC (IETF LLC) has
	fiduciary duty for the overall organization, which includes the duty	fiduciary duty for the overall organization, which includes the duty
	to protect the organization from serious legal risk that may arise	to protect the organization from serious legal risk that may arise
	from the behavior of IETF participants.</t>	from the behavior of IETF participants.</t>
	<t>This protection may include the need for the IETF LLC to take	<t>This protection may include the need for the IETF LLC to take
	emergency moderation actions. These emergency actions are expected to	emergency moderation actions. These emergency actions are expected to
	be taken only when the IETF LLC has received legal advice that such	be taken only when the IETF LLC has received legal advice that such

	action is necessary, and therefore extremely rare in frequency. Some	action is necessary and therefore will be extremely rare in frequency. Some
	examples of where this might be necessary are:</t>	examples of where this might be necessary are:</t>
	<ul spacing="normal">	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Someone making a credible threat of harm to other IETF participan ts.</t>	<t>Someone making a credible threat of harm to other IETF participan ts.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Someone using IETF mailing lists and/or websites to share content	<t>Someone using IETF mailing lists and/or websites to share content
	where publishing that content on IETF lists and/or websites brings	where publishing that content on IETF lists and/or websites brings
	serious legal risk to the IETF.</t>	serious legal risk to the IETF.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Someone making a credible threat of legal action where any form o f	<t>Someone making a credible threat of legal action where any form o f
	interaction with them on IETF mailing lists may have serious legal	interaction with them on IETF mailing lists may have serious legal
	consequences for the IETF.</t>	consequences for the IETF.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	</ul>	</ul>
	<t>If any such action is taken, the IETF LLC should, except where	<t>If any such action is taken, the IETF LLC should, except where
	limited by legal advice to the contrary, inform the IESG as soon as	limited by legal advice to the contrary, inform the IESG as soon as
	possible, providing full details of the subject of the action, nature	possible, providing full details of the subject of the action, nature

	of the action, reason for the action and expected duration. The IETF	of the action, reason for the action, and the expected duration. The IETF
	LLC should also inform the moderator team and IETF community, except	LLC should also inform the moderator team and IETF community, except
	where it receives legal advice to the contrary.</t>	where it receives legal advice to the contrary.</t>
	<t>As such an action would be taken by the IETF LLC in order to protect	<t>As such an action would be taken by the IETF LLC in order to protect
	the IETF according to its fiduciary duty, then it cannot allow that	the IETF according to its fiduciary duty, then it cannot allow that
	to be overridden by a decision of the moderator team or the IESG.	to be overridden by a decision of the moderator team or the IESG.
	The subject of any such action may request a review by the IETF LLC	The subject of any such action may request a review by the IETF LLC

	board, as documented in <xref section="4.7" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC8711"/ >.</t>	Board, as documented in <xref section="4.7" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC8711"/ >.</t>
	<t>Any such action taken by the IETF LLC under this section of this	<t>Any such action taken by the IETF LLC under this section of this
	policy is not subject to the rest of this policy.</t>	policy is not subject to the rest of this policy.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="security-considerations">	<section anchor="security-considerations">
	<name>Security Considerations</name>	<name>Security Considerations</name>
	<t>The usual security considerations <xref target="RFC3552"/> do not apply to this	<t>The usual security considerations <xref target="RFC3552"/> do not apply to this
	memo.</t>	memo.</t>
	<t>There is the potential abuse of the moderation procedures by moderators ,	<t>There is the potential abuse of the moderation procedures by moderators ,
	working group chairs, and potentially others that could lead to	working group chairs, and potentially others that could lead to

	skipping to change at line 469 ¶	skipping to change at line 622 ¶
	<t><xref target="genphil"/> explicitly states that viewpoints outside the rough	<t><xref target="genphil"/> explicitly states that viewpoints outside the rough
	consensus are not in and of themselves disruptive.</t>	consensus are not in and of themselves disruptive.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t><xref target="prod"/> provides transparency by requiring that moder ation actions	<t><xref target="prod"/> provides transparency by requiring that moder ation actions
	that restrict participation privileges be immediately reported	that restrict participation privileges be immediately reported
	to the affected person and to the moderation team, and	to the affected person and to the moderation team, and
	periodically reported to the IESG.</t>	periodically reported to the IESG.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>That same section requires that the community be informed in the ca se	<t><xref target="prod"/> also requires that the community be informed in the case
	of suspensions lasting longer than 14 days.</t>	of suspensions lasting longer than 14 days.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t><xref target="appeals"/> lays out an appeals process in the case of	<t><xref target="appeals"/> lays out an appeals process in the case of
	disagreements.</t>	disagreements.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>If moderators find that the procedures themselves are leading to	<t>If moderators find that the procedures themselves are leading to
	inappropriate moderation, <xref target="prod"/> allows them to update those proc edures	inappropriate moderation, <xref target="prod"/> allows them to update those proc edures

	in consultation with the community, and with the approval of the IESG.</t>	in consultation with the community and with the approval of the IESG.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>If IETF participants believe that either the IESG or the IAB are no t performing	<t>If IETF participants believe that either the IESG or the IAB are no t performing
	their respective oversight functions as described in this document, they may	their respective oversight functions as described in this document, they may
	comment to the NomCom <xref target="BCP10"/> or the community at large.</t>	comment to the NomCom <xref target="BCP10"/> or the community at large.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Finally, if it appears that these processes are not functioning	<t>Finally, if it appears that these processes are not functioning
	properly, the policies stated in this memo may be amended.	properly, the policies stated in this memo may be amended.
	They are not set in stone.</t>	They are not set in stone.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	</ol>	</ol>
	<t>Moderation actions are intended to limit the likelihood	<t>Moderation actions are intended to limit the likelihood

	of disruptive behavior by a few IETF participants from discouraging	of disruptive behavior by a few IETF participants that may discourage
	participation by other IETF participants.</t>	participation by other IETF participants.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="iana-considerations">	<section anchor="iana-considerations">
	<name>IANA Considerations</name>	<name>IANA Considerations</name>

	<t>No IANA actions are requested.</t>	<t>This document has no IANA actions.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="acknowledgments">	<section anchor="acknowledgments">
	<name>Acknowledgments</name>	<name>Acknowledgments</name>
	<t>This memo is based on two individual Internet-Drafts,	<t>This memo is based on two individual Internet-Drafts,
	<eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ecahc-moderation/">draft-ec ahc-moderation</eref>	<eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ecahc-moderation/">draft-ec ahc-moderation</eref>

	authored by Lars Eggert, Alissa Cooper, Jari Arkko, Russ Housley and Brian E.	authored by <contact fullname="Lars Eggert"/>, <contact fullname="Alissa Cooper"
	Carpenter, and	/>, <contact fullname="Jari Arkko"/>, <contact fullname="Russ Housley"/>, and <c
		ontact fullname="Brian E. Carpenter"/>, and
	<eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lear-bcp83-replacement/">dr aft-lear-bcp83-replacement</eref>	<eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lear-bcp83-replacement/">dr aft-lear-bcp83-replacement</eref>

	authored by Eliot Lear, Robert Wilton, Bron Gondwana and John R. Levine.	authored by <contact fullname="Eliot Lear"/>, <contact fullname="Robert Wilton"/
	Robert Sayre authored	>, <contact fullname="Bron Gondwana"/>, and <contact fullname="John R. Levine"/>
		.
		<contact fullname="Robert Sayre"/> authored
	<eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sayre-modpod-excellent/">dr aft-sayre-modpod-excellent</eref>,	<eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sayre-modpod-excellent/">dr aft-sayre-modpod-excellent</eref>,

	which also originated ideas reflected in this work. Pete Resnick provided the	which also originated ideas reflected in this work. <contact fullname="Pete Res nick"/> provided the
	basis for how the moderators interact with list/forum leadership.</t>	basis for how the moderators interact with list/forum leadership.</t>
	<t>These individuals contributed additional improvements:</t>	<t>These individuals contributed additional improvements:</t>
	<ul spacing="normal">	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Alissa Cooper</t>	<t><contact fullname="Alissa Cooper"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Brian Carpenter</t>	<t><contact fullname="Brian Carpenter"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Chris Box</t>	<t><contact fullname="Chris Box"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Colin Perkins</t>	<t><contact fullname="Colin Perkins"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>David Schinazi</t>	<t><contact fullname="David Schinazi"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Eric Rescorla</t>	<t><contact fullname="Eric Rescorla"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Jay Daley</t>	<t><contact fullname="Jay Daley"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Joel Halpern</t>	<t><contact fullname="Joel Halpern"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>John Klensin</t>	<t><contact fullname="John Klensin"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>John Scudder</t>	<t><contact fullname="John Scudder"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Martin Thomson</t>	<t><contact fullname="Martin Thomson"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Melinda Shore</t>	<t><contact fullname="Melinda Shore"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Michael Richardson</t>	<t><contact fullname="Michael Richardson"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Nick Hilliard</t>	<t><contact fullname="Nick Hilliard"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Pete Resnick</t>	<t><contact fullname="Pete Resnick"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Rich Salz</t>	<t><contact fullname="Rich Salz"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Robert Sayre</t>	<t><contact fullname="Robert Sayre"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Russ Housley</t>	<t><contact fullname="Russ Housley"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Sean Turner</t>	<t><contact fullname="Sean Turner"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Simon Josefsson</t>	<t><contact fullname="Simon Josefsson"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Stephen Farrell</t>	<t><contact fullname="Stephen Farrell"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Ted Lemon</t>	<t><contact fullname="Ted Lemon"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>

	<t>Tim Bray</t>	<t><contact fullname="Tim Bray"/></t>
	</li>	</li>
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	<name>References</name>	<name>References</name>
	<references anchor="sec-normative-references">	<references anchor="sec-normative-references">
	<name>Normative References</name>	<name>Normative References</name>

	<reference anchor="RFC2418">	<xi:include href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2
	<front>	418.xml"/>
	<title>IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures</title>	<xi:include href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.3
	<author fullname="S. Bradner" initials="S." surname="Bradner"/>	935.xml"/>
	<date month="September" year="1998"/>	<xi:include href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.7
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	<t>This document describes the guidelines and procedures for forma	<xi:include href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.8
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	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="25"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="2418"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC2418"/>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC3935">
	<front>
	<title>A Mission Statement for the IETF</title>
	<author fullname="H. Alvestrand" initials="H." surname="Alvestrand"/
	>
	<date month="October" year="2004"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>This memo gives a mission statement for the IETF, tries to defi
	ne the terms used in the statement sufficiently to make the mission statement un
	derstandable and useful, argues why the IETF needs a mission statement, and trie
	s to capture some of the debate that led to this point. This document specifies
	an Internet Best Current Practices for the Internet Community, and requests disc
	ussion and suggestions for improvements.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="95"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="3935"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC3935"/>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC7154">
	<front>
	<title>IETF Guidelines for Conduct</title>
	<author fullname="S. Moonesamy" initials="S." role="editor" surname=
	"Moonesamy"/>
	<date month="March" year="2014"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>This document provides a set of guidelines for personal interac
	tion in the Internet Engineering Task Force. The guidelines recognize the divers
	ity of IETF participants, emphasize the value of mutual respect, and stress the
	broad applicability of our work.</t>
	<t>This document is an updated version of the guidelines for condu
	ct originally published in RFC 3184.</t>
	</abstract>
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	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="54"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="7154"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC7154"/>
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	<reference anchor="RFC8711">
	<front>
	<title>Structure of the IETF Administrative Support Activity, Versio
	n 2.0</title>
	<author fullname="B. Haberman" initials="B." surname="Haberman"/>
	<author fullname="J. Hall" initials="J." surname="Hall"/>
	<author fullname="J. Livingood" initials="J." surname="Livingood"/>
	<date month="February" year="2020"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>The IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA) was originally
	established in 2005. In the years since then, the needs of the IETF evolved in w
	ays that required changes to its administrative structure. The purpose of this R
	FC is to document and describe the IETF Administrative Support Activity, version
	2.0 (IASA 2.0). It defines the roles and responsibilities of the IETF Administr
	ation LLC Board (IETF LLC Board), the IETF Executive Director, and the Internet
	Society in the fiscal and administrative support of the IETF standards process.
	It also defines the membership and selection rules for the IETF LLC Board.</t>
	<t>This document obsoletes RFC 4071, RFC 4333, and RFC 7691.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="101"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="8711"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC8711"/>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC2026">
	<front>
	<title>The Internet Standards Process -- Revision 3</title>
	<author fullname="S. Bradner" initials="S." surname="Bradner"/>
	<date month="October" year="1996"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>This memo documents the process used by the Internet community
	for the standardization of protocols and procedures. It defines the stages in th
	e standardization process, the requirements for moving a document between stages
	and the types of documents used during this process. This document specifies an
	Internet Best Current Practices for the Internet Community, and requests discus
	sion and suggestions for improvements.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="9"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="2026"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC2026"/>
	</reference>
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	<front>	<xi:include href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC
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	tle>
	<author fullname="M. Kucherawy" initials="M." role="editor" surnam
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	<author fullname="R. Hinden" initials="R." role="editor" surname="
	Hinden"/>
	<author fullname="J. Livingood" initials="J." role="editor" surnam
	e="Livingood"/>
	<date month="February" year="2020"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>The process by which the members of the IAB and IESG, some Tr
	ustees of the IETF Trust, and some Directors of the IETF Administration LLC (IET
	F LLC) are selected, confirmed, and recalled is specified in this document. This
	document is based on RFC 7437. Only those updates required to reflect the chang
	es introduced by IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA) 2.0 have been inclu
	ded. Any other changes will be addressed in future documents.</t>
	<t>This document obsoletes RFC 7437 and RFC 8318.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="10"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="8713"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC8713"/>
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	<reference anchor="RFC9389" target="https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rf
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	<front>
	<title>Nominating Committee Eligibility</title>
	<author fullname="M. Duke" initials="M." surname="Duke"/>
	<date month="April" year="2023"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>The IETF Nominating Committee (NomCom) appoints candidates to
	several IETF leadership committees. RFC 8713 provides criteria for NomCom membe
	rship that attempt to ensure NomCom volunteers are members of the loosely define
	d IETF community, by requiring in-person attendance in three of the past five in
	-person meetings. In 2020 and 2021, the IETF had six consecutive fully online pl
	enary meetings that drove rapid advancement in remote meeting technologies and p
	rocedures, including an experiment that included remote attendance for NomCom el
	igibility. This document updates RFC 8713 by defining a new set of eligibility c
	riteria from first principles, with consideration to the increased salience of r
	emote attendance. This document obsoletes RFCs 8788 and 8989.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="10"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="9389"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC9389"/>
	</reference>
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	<reference anchor="RFC7776">	<xi:include href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.7
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	<title>IETF Anti-Harassment Procedures</title>
	<author fullname="P. Resnick" initials="P." surname="Resnick"/>
	<author fullname="A. Farrel" initials="A." surname="Farrel"/>
	<date month="March" year="2016"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>IETF Participants must not engage in harassment while at IETF m
	eetings, virtual meetings, or social events or while participating in mailing li
	sts. This document lays out procedures for managing and enforcing this policy.</
	t>
	<t>This document updates RFC 2418 by defining new working group gu
	idelines and procedures. This document updates RFC 7437 by allowing the Ombudste
	am to form a recall petition without further signatories.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="25"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="7776"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC7776"/>
	</reference>
	</references>	</references>
	<references anchor="sec-informative-references">	<references anchor="sec-informative-references">
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	<reference anchor="IESG-SPAM" target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/s tatement-iesg-iesg-statement-on-spam-control-on-ietf-mailing-lists-20080414/">	<reference anchor="IESG-SPAM" target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/s tatement-iesg-iesg-statement-on-spam-control-on-ietf-mailing-lists-20080414/">
	<front>	<front>
	<title>IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists</title>	<title>IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists</title>
	<author>	<author>
	<organization>IESG</organization>	<organization>IESG</organization>
	</author>	</author>

	<date year="2008" month="April" day="18"/>	<date year="2008" month="April" day="14"/>
	</front>	</front>
	</reference>	</reference>
	<reference anchor="AHP" target="https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/s tatements/anti-harassment-policy/">	<reference anchor="AHP" target="https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/s tatements/anti-harassment-policy/">
	<front>	<front>
	<title>IETF Anti-Harassment Policy</title>	<title>IETF Anti-Harassment Policy</title>
	<author>	<author>
	<organization>IESG</organization>	<organization>IESG</organization>
	</author>	</author>
	<date year="2013" month="November" day="03"/>	<date year="2013" month="November" day="03"/>
	</front>	</front>

	skipping to change at line 753 ¶	skipping to change at line 800 ¶
	</author>	</author>
	<date year="2000" month="August" day="29"/>	<date year="2000" month="August" day="29"/>
	</front>	</front>
	</reference>	</reference>
	<reference anchor="DP" target="https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/st atements/disruptive-posting/">	<reference anchor="DP" target="https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/st atements/disruptive-posting/">
	<front>	<front>
	<title>IESG Statement on Disruptive Posting</title>	<title>IESG Statement on Disruptive Posting</title>
	<author>	<author>
	<organization>IESG</organization>	<organization>IESG</organization>
	</author>	</author>

	<date year="2006" month="February" day="16"/>	<date year="2006" month="February" day="17"/>
	</front>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC3683">
	<front>
	<title>A Practice for Revoking Posting Rights to IETF Mailing Lists<
	/title>
	<author fullname="M. Rose" initials="M." surname="Rose"/>
	<date month="March" year="2004"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>All self-governing bodies have ways of managing the scope of pa
	rticipant interaction. The IETF uses a consensus-driven process for developing c
	omputer-communications standards in an open fashion. An important part of this c
	onsensus-driven process is the pervasive use of mailing lists for discussion. No
	tably, in a small number of cases, a participant has engaged in a "denial-of-ser
	vice" attack to disrupt the consensus-driven process. Regrettably, as these bad
	faith attacks become more common, the IETF needs to establish a practice that re
	duces or eliminates these attacks. This memo recommends such a practice for use
	by the IETF. This document specifies an Internet Best Current Practices for the
	Internet Community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements.</t
	>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="83"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="3683"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC3683"/>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC3934">
	<front>
	<title>Updates to RFC 2418 Regarding the Management of IETF Mailing
	Lists</title>
	<author fullname="M. Wasserman" initials="M." surname="Wasserman"/>
	<date month="October" year="2004"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>This document is an update to RFC 2418 that gives WG chairs exp
	licit responsibility for managing WG mailing lists. In particular, it gives WG c
	hairs the authority to temporarily suspend the mailing list posting privileges o
	f disruptive individuals. This document specifies an Internet Best Current Pract
	ices for the Internet Community, and requests discussion and suggestions for imp
	rovements.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="25"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="3934"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC3934"/>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC9245">
	<front>
	<title>IETF Discussion List Charter</title>
	<author fullname="L. Eggert" initials="L." surname="Eggert"/>
	<author fullname="S. Harris" initials="S." surname="Harris"/>
	<date month="June" year="2022"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) discussion mailing l
	ist furthers the development and specification of Internet technology through th
	e general discussion of technical, procedural, operational, and other topics for
	which no dedicated mailing lists exist. As this is the most general IETF mailin
	g list, considerable latitude in terms of topics is allowed, but there are posts
	and topics that are unsuitable for this mailing list. This document defines the
	charter for the IETF discussion list and explains its scope.</t>
	<t>This document obsoletes RFC 3005 and updates RFC 3683.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="45"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="9245"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC9245"/>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC7282">
	<front>
	<title>On Consensus and Humming in the IETF</title>
	<author fullname="P. Resnick" initials="P." surname="Resnick"/>
	<date month="June" year="2014"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>The IETF has had a long tradition of doing its technical work t
	hrough a consensus process, taking into account the different views among IETF p
	articipants and coming to (at least rough) consensus on technical matters. In pa
	rticular, the IETF is supposed not to be run by a "majority rule" philosophy. Th
	is is why we engage in rituals like "humming" instead of voting. However, more a
	nd more of our actions are now indistinguishable from voting, and quite often we
	are letting the majority win the day without consideration of minority concerns
	. This document explains some features of rough consensus, what is not rough con
	sensus, how we have gotten away from it, how we might think about it differently
	, and the things we can do in order to really achieve rough consensus.</t>
	<t>Note: This document is quite consciously being put forward as I
	nformational. It does not propose to change any IETF processes and is therefore
	not a BCP. It is simply a collection of principles, hopefully around which the I
	ETF can come to (at least rough) consensus.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>	</front>

	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="7282"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC7282"/>
	</reference>
	<reference anchor="RFC3552">
	<front>
	<title>Guidelines for Writing RFC Text on Security Considerations</t
	itle>
	<author fullname="E. Rescorla" initials="E." surname="Rescorla"/>
	<author fullname="B. Korver" initials="B." surname="Korver"/>
	<date month="July" year="2003"/>
	<abstract>
	<t>All RFCs are required to have a Security Considerations section
	. Historically, such sections have been relatively weak. This document provides
	guidelines to RFC authors on how to write a good Security Considerations section
	. This document specifies an Internet Best Current Practices for the Internet Co
	mmunity, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements.</t>
	</abstract>
	</front>
	<seriesInfo name="BCP" value="72"/>
	<seriesInfo name="RFC" value="3552"/>
	<seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC3552"/>
	</reference>	</reference>

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		<xi:include href="https://bib.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.7
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	<section anchor="change-history-of-this-i-d">	<section anchor="motivation">
	<name>Change History of this I-D</name>
	<aside>
	<t>RFC Editor: Please remove this appendix before publication.</t>
	</aside>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-11">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-11</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/238/">clarify when changes take effect</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/239">Refine security considerations</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/257/files">Multi group and moderator reversal</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/258">Last(?) bits from 2nd last call</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-10">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-10</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t>Many editorial suggestions received during WGLC.</t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/181">remove attendee mailing lists from moderator primary resp
	onsibility</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/149">Correct reference to appeals process.</eref>
	<eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-grou
	p-processes/pull/230">Also this.</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/197">Clarify fora that are out of scope.</eref>
	<eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-grou
	p-processes/pull/181">Incl. attendees' lists.</eref>
	<eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-grou
	p-processes/pull/235">Also this.</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/220">Clarify WG chairs are default admins but can delegate.</e
	ref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/231">Mod team size guidance.</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/229">Chair immediately notify mods and affected parties.</eref
	></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/232">Add all of the available mitigations to risks of censorsh
	ip.</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/234">Clarify AD responsibilities.</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-09">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-09</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/147">Try to find another happy medium on power of moderators</
	eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-08">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-08</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/issues/142">Address timeliness and exisgent circumstances</eref></t
	>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/143">Make clear that moderators should use their judgment on t
	iming</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-07">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-07</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/issues/134">Pete Resnick issues and similar</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/135">Includes changes to abstract, intro, tweaks to make relat
	ionship
	between admins/WG chairs clearer; makes roles clearer,
	moderation team → moderator team.</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modmod-group-processes-06">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modmod-group-processes-06</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/129">Normalize handling of moderation across all fora</eref></
	t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/132">Obsolete RFC 3934, explicit admin responsibility</eref></
	t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-05">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-05</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/126">New attempt to address moderation/WG interactions</eref><
	/t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-04">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-04</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/120">Use plain English instead of BCP 14 language</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-03">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-03</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/121">Non-normative Examples of Disruptive Behavior</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-02">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-02</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/105">Say which RFCs this obsoletes and updates.</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/116">Address issue 113</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/103">Rewrite philosophy</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/107">Reinstatement</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/109">Content removal is not moderation.</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-01">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-01</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/92">Update "Relation to the IETF LLC".</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/97">Point to relevant IRTF material.</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/100">Add some text to explain the role of moderators.</eref></
	t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-00">
	<name>Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-00</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/80">Spelling fix</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/75">Initial attempt to balance what the moderator defines and
	what</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/76">Scope and relationship between WG chairs and moderators</e
	ref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/88">Fix wording, spelling and capitalization.</eref></t>
	</li>
	<li>
	<t><eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-gro
	up-processes/pull/87">Editorial changes to acknowledgments.</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	<section anchor="since-draft-ecahc-moderation-01">
	<name>Since draft-ecahc-moderation-01</name>
	<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>
	<t>Content taken from
	<eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ecahc-moderation/01/">draft
	-ecahc-moderation-01</eref>.
	<eref target="https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pu
	ll/65">Updated editors. Acknowledge authors of original pre-WG I-Ds.</eref></t>
	</li>
	</ul>
	</section>
	</section>
	<section anchor="motivation">
	<name>Motivation</name>	<name>Motivation</name>

	<t><xref target="introduction"/> summarized the process changes introduced by this memo.	<t><xref target="introduction"/> summarizes the process changes introduced by this memo.
	This appendix discusses the background that led to them.</t>	This appendix discusses the background that led to them.</t>
	<section anchor="background">	<section anchor="background">
	<name>Background</name>	<name>Background</name>
	<t>The IETF community has defined general guidelines for	<t>The IETF community has defined general guidelines for

	personal interactions in the IETF <xref target="RFC7154"/>, and the IESG has	personal interactions in the IETF <xref target="RFC7154"/>. The IESG has
	defined an anti-harassment policy for the IETF <xref target="AHP"/> for which th e IETF	defined an anti-harassment policy for the IETF <xref target="AHP"/> for which th e IETF
	community has defined anti-harassment procedures <xref target="RFC7776"/>,	community has defined anti-harassment procedures <xref target="RFC7776"/>,

	empowering an ombudsteam <xref target="OT"/> to take necessary action.</t>	empowering an Ombudsteam <xref target="OT"/> to take necessary action.</t>
	<t>Dealing with <em>disruptive</em> behavior, however, is not part of th e role	<t>Dealing with <em>disruptive</em> behavior, however, is not part of th e role

	of the ombudsteam. <xref target="RFC2418"/> tasks the chairs of each IETF workin g	of the Ombudsteam. <xref target="RFC2418"/> tasks the chairs of each IETF workin g
	group with moderating their group's in-person meetings while	group with moderating their group's in-person meetings while

	<xref target="RFC3934"/> provided chairs a procedure to help manage mailing	<xref target="RFC3934"/> provides chairs a procedure to help manage mailing
	lists. An IESG statement <xref target="MODML"/> described additional guidance	lists. An IESG statement <xref target="MODML"/> describes additional guidance
	to working group chairs about how — but not when — to moderate their	to working group chairs about how -- but not when -- to moderate their
	lists.</t>	lists.</t>
	<t>For IETF mailing lists not associated with a working group, another	<t>For IETF mailing lists not associated with a working group, another
	IESG statement <xref target="DP"/> clarifies that the IESG tasks list administra tors	IESG statement <xref target="DP"/> clarifies that the IESG tasks list administra tors
	with moderation. And the IETF list for general discussions	with moderation. And the IETF list for general discussions
	has, mostly for historic reasons, a team of moderators that are not	has, mostly for historic reasons, a team of moderators that are not
	list administrators and operate by a different set of processes	list administrators and operate by a different set of processes
	<xref target="RFC9245"/>.</t>	<xref target="RFC9245"/>.</t>

	<t>Note that the term "moderation" can refer both to <em>preemptive</em>	<!-- [rfced] May we update "with a spectrum from" as follows to improve
		this sentence?

		Original:
		The IETF historically mainly
		practiced reactive moderation, with a spectrum from gentle reminders
		on- and off-list, all the way to suspension of posting rights and
		other ways of participating or communicating.

		Perhaps:
		Historically, the IETF has mainly
		practiced reactive moderation, employing actions ranging from gentle reminder
		s
		on- and off-list all the way to suspension of posting rights and
		other ways of participating or communicating.
		-->

		<t>Note that the term "moderation" can refer both to <em>preemptive</em>
	moderation, where administrators review attempted participation before	moderation, where administrators review attempted participation before
	it occurs	it occurs
	(such as reviewing messages to a mailing list), and <em>reactive</em> moderation ,	(such as reviewing messages to a mailing list), and <em>reactive</em> moderation ,
	where administrators intervene after disruptive participation has occurred.	where administrators intervene after disruptive participation has occurred.

	The	Historically, the
	IETF historically mainly practiced reactive moderation, with a spectrum from	IETF has mainly practiced reactive moderation, with a spectrum from
	gentle reminders on- and off-list, all the way to suspension of posting rights	gentle reminders on- and off-list, all the way to suspension of posting rights
	and other ways of participating or communicating. It is up to the moderators	and other ways of participating or communicating. It is up to the moderators
	and administrators	and administrators
	to decide which mix of preemptive and reactive moderation to employ as	to decide which mix of preemptive and reactive moderation to employ as
	part of their procedures.</t>	part of their procedures.</t>
	<t>In addition, <xref target="RFC3683"/> defines a process for revoking an	<t>In addition, <xref target="RFC3683"/> defines a process for revoking an
	individual's posting rights to IETF mailing lists following a	individual's posting rights to IETF mailing lists following a

	community last-call of a "posting rights" action (PR-action) proposed	community Last Call of a "posting rights" action (PR-action) proposed
	by the IESG, often in response to complaints from the community.</t>	by the IESG, often in response to complaints from the community.</t>
	<t>Experience and community input suggests that an evolution of the	<t>Experience and community input suggests that an evolution of the
	existing processes is necessary.</t>	existing processes is necessary.</t>
	</section>	</section>
	<section anchor="motive">	<section anchor="motive">
	<name>Problems with the Previous Approach</name>	<name>Problems with the Previous Approach</name>
	<t>The previous approach to moderation of disruptive participation	<t>The previous approach to moderation of disruptive participation
	through chairs, list administrators, and moderator teams, combined	through chairs, list administrators, and moderator teams, combined
	with the IESG-led process of PR-actions, has proven to be less than	with the IESG-led process of PR-actions, has proven to be less than
	ideal:</t>	ideal:</t>

	skipping to change at line 1091 ¶	skipping to change at line 902 ¶
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>Chairs and list administrators may only enact moderation actions for	<t>Chairs and list administrators may only enact moderation actions for
	their single list, which is ill-suited when a pattern of disruptive	their single list, which is ill-suited when a pattern of disruptive
	behavior spans multiple lists. Also, chairs and list administrators	behavior spans multiple lists. Also, chairs and list administrators
	may not be fully aware of disruptive behavior that spans multiple	may not be fully aware of disruptive behavior that spans multiple
	lists, due to not being subscribed to some of them.</t>	lists, due to not being subscribed to some of them.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>PR-actions, which can address disruptive behavior across several	<t>PR-actions, which can address disruptive behavior across several

	lists, are cumbersome and slow, and inconsistent. This has	lists, are cumbersome, slow, and inconsistent. This has
	led to a situation where PR-actions are rarely used, and when they	led to a situation where PR-actions are rarely used, and when they
	are used, they are perceived as very heavy-handed.</t>	are used, they are perceived as very heavy-handed.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	<li>	<li>
	<t>For a given mailing list, participants may not feel comfortable	<t>For a given mailing list, participants may not feel comfortable
	reporting disruptive behavior to a chair or list administrator, for	reporting disruptive behavior to a chair or list administrator, for
	various reasons. For mailing lists not associated with working	various reasons. For mailing lists not associated with working

	groups, list administrators are not even publicly identified - they	groups, list administrators are not even publicly identified -- they
	can only be contacted through an anonymous alias address. This	can only be contacted through an anonymous alias address. This
	exacerbates the problem, because participants may not be	exacerbates the problem, because participants may not be
	comfortable reporting disruptive behavior to an anonymous party.</t>	comfortable reporting disruptive behavior to an anonymous party.</t>
	</li>	</li>

		</ul>
		<!-- [rfced] Please consider updating this text as follows to improve
		readability:

		- revising the first sentence (it is difficult to follow because a "not only"
		phrase is usually paired with "but also").
		- adding "However" and "e.g." to the second sentence.
		- updating "How disruptive behavior is moderated" the third sentence as shown
		below.

		Original:
		* The IETF offers participation not only through in-person meetings
		and mailing lists, which are the two channels of participation for
		which moderation processes are currently defined. IETF business
		also happens in chat groups, remote meeting participation systems,
		virtual meetings, wikis, GitHub repositories, and more. How
		disruptive behavior is moderated in these fora is currently
		undefined.

		Perhaps:
		* Moderation processes have been defined for only two channels of
		participation in the IETF: in-person meetings and mailing lists.
		However, IETF business now happens in a number of fora (e.g., chat
		groups, remote meeting participation systems, virtual meetings, wikis,
		and GitHub repositories). Procedures for moderating disruptive behavior i
		n these
		fora are currently undefined.
		-->

		<ul spacing="normal">
	<li>	<li>
	<t>The IETF offers participation not only through in-person meetings	<t>The IETF offers participation not only through in-person meetings
	and mailing lists, which are the two channels of participation for	and mailing lists, which are the two channels of participation for
	which moderation processes are currently defined. IETF business	which moderation processes are currently defined. IETF business
	also happens in chat groups, remote meeting participation	also happens in chat groups, remote meeting participation
	systems, virtual meetings, wikis, GitHub repositories, and more.	systems, virtual meetings, wikis, GitHub repositories, and more.
	How disruptive behavior is moderated in these fora is currently	How disruptive behavior is moderated in these fora is currently
	undefined.</t>	undefined.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	</ul>	</ul>

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	<t>"Sealioning", where a participant makes incessant requests for evid ence or	<t>"Sealioning", where a participant makes incessant requests for evid ence or
	data, even while remaining superficially polite.</t>	data, even while remaining superficially polite.</t>
	</li>	</li>
	</ul>	</ul>
	<t>These items are examples. Moderators and administrators may take modera tion	<t>These items are examples. Moderators and administrators may take modera tion
	actions for many other cases.</t>	actions for many other cases.</t>
	<t>The moderator team's task consists of	<t>The moderator team's task consists of
	subjective judgment calls. Behaviors not listed here might require	subjective judgment calls. Behaviors not listed here might require
	moderation, and it is not possible to write a complete list of all such	moderation, and it is not possible to write a complete list of all such
	behaviors.</t>	behaviors.</t>

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		and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature typically
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