IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE August 24th, 1992 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. iesg-secretary@nri.reston.va.us ATTENDEES --------- Borman, David / Cray Research Crocker, Dave / TBO Crocker, Steve / TIS Coya, Steve / CNRI Davin, Chuck / Bellcore Gross, Philip / ANS Hobby, Russ /UC-Davis Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Almquist, Philip / Consultant Hinden, Robert / SUN Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore AGENDA ------ 1) Administrivia o Bash the Agenda o Next Meeting o IESG-Admin mailing list 2) Protocol Actions o Ethernet MIB o Dynamic Host Configuration o Hub MIB 3) Technical Management Issues o ROAD Work Plan o SMP Chairman o TAP and STD/RFC Confusion 4) Working Group Actions o Integration of Internet Information Service (iiis) o IP Address Encapsulation (ipae) o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service (wnils) MINUTES -------- 1) Administrivia o Bash the Agenda The IESG agenda was altered as the meeting progressed. o Next Meeting. The IESG agreed to meet weekly for the next month to continue work on the backlog of items. These meetings will each be from 12-2 pm ET. August 31th, September 10th or 11th, September 14th, September 21st, October 1st o IESG-ADMIN mailing list To foster more effecient scheduling of IESG meetings, a new mailing list was set up to include administrative support people responsible for IESG members calendars. ACTION: Coya -- Set up the IESG-Admin@nri.reston.va.us mailing list and send a notice to the IESG soliciting entries. 2) Protocol Actions o Ethernet MIB The Ethernet MIB was approved as revised during the last call period. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to publish the Ethernet MIB as a Draft Standard. o Hub MIB The IESG discussed the single comment raised during the last call period, agreed upon a response and approved the 802.3 Repeater MIB for Proposed Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the 802.3 Repeater MIB as a Proposed Standard. o Dynamic Host Configuration The review of the Dynamic Host Configuration was assigned to the Transport and Services area and will be reviewed by Dave Borman. ACTION: Borman -- Review the set of Dynamic Host Configuration documents. 3) Technical Management Issues o ROAD Work Plan The IESG discussed a work plan document combined from Philip Almquist's draft and the IESG proposal sent to the Big-Internet list. The IESG agreed that the document should be posted as an Internet Draft as soon as possible. Publication as an Informational RFC was discussed but deferred until the IETF had a chance to review and submit comments. ACTION: Gross - Make final edits with Bob Hinden to the IESG ROAD Work Plan and submit the document to the Internet Drafts directory for review. IPAE is the first Working Group proposed under the work plan and the IESG decided to actively solicit additional charters before announcing IPAE. Because of the shortage of resources in the Internet Area the tasks of soliciting the charters was distributed among the IESG. ACTION: Dave Crocker -- Get a final version of the IPAE charter to the IESG. ACTION: Piscitello -- Work to get a charter for the TUBA effort submitted to the IESG. ACTION: Davin -- Work to get a charter for the PIP protocol effort submitted to the IESG. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Work with Noel Chiappa to get a charter for a NIMROD working group. Work on Integrating CIDR into the current routing protocols is progressing in individual Working Groups in the Routing Area. The IESG felt that additional coordination was needed for deployment in addition to the BGP efforts and tasked Stockman to assemble and charter a CIDR deployment working group. ACTION: Stockman -- Form a Cidr Deployment Working Group. o SMP Working Group Chairmanship Finding a chairman for the SMP Working Group continues to be a challenge. The IESG discussed the wisdom of requesting the Area Director for Network Management Chuck Davin chair this group. The IESG agreed that this was not an optimal solution and requested that the search be expanded to individuals who are not central to the SNMP community. o TAP and the RFC/STD confusion Daniel Bernstein has submitted his TAP specification to the RFC Editor for publication as a Informational document. This document is roughly equivalent to a document submitted earlier as a Proposed Standard for which the IDENT Working Group was formed. The author is not satisfied with the work of this group and has asked to have his submission published as Informational. The IESG discussed this request with the RFC Editor and has suggested that in the current environment where RFCs are equated incorrectly with standards, publication of TAP would be seen as directly competing with the efforts of the IETF working group. The cause of confusion is the procedure by which an Informational document specifying protocol is published. The STD series does not appear to have reduced the appearance of RFCs as standard to outside individuals. Currently the RFC Editor may at his discretion publish the document, an awkward procedure when the IESG suggests that the document should not be published. ACTION: Dave Crocker -- Write a proposed policy on the publication of Informational documents specifying protocol as RFCs. ACTION: Gross -- Make a request to the IAB Executive Director to hold a joint IESG/IAB teleconference to discuss this persistent procedural problem. 4) Working Group Actions o Integration of Internet Information Services (IIIS) The proposed IIIS working group is one of several working groups being formed to address the needs of the Internet for Resource and Information location services. IIIS is intended to take the work of several prototype services like Archie, Prospero, Gopher and WWW, determine common requirements and define a common protocol. The IESG discussed this working group in the context of two other recently proposed, but not initially coordinated WGs -- Universal Resource Locator/Universial Document Identifier (URL) and Network Information Retrieval (NIR). These groups each address a specific part of what should be considered as a coordinated project. IIIS will standardize upon an information access protocol. URL will standardize on a common global document naming convention. NIR will determine what needs naming and how to name it. The IESG agreed that these working groups needed to be tightly coordinated and well managed to insure a workable solution. Therefore, rather than approve the charters of these groups individually, the IESG opted to encourage the IIIS and other WGs to write coordinated charters. To achieve this coordination, the IESG asked Huizer, Hobby, and Reynolds to draft a brief architecural overview statement that could be referenced by, or incorporated into, the charters of each WG. The IESG decided to create these working group in the Applications area under Russ Hobby. They will be co-managed by Joyce Reynolds in the User Services area. ACTION: Hobby, Reynolds, Huizer -- Draft a Brief (~1 page) overview/architecture for a coordinated "Integrated Internet Information Service". ACTION: Hobby, Reynolds -- Coordinate the drafting of the charters for the proposed Integrated Internet Information Services, Universal Document Identifier and Network Information Retreival Working Groups to align with the above overview/architecture.. The Coalition for Network Information (CNI) has express an interest in supporting and participating in the work of these working groups. ACTION: Reynolds, Gross -- With the architecture and charters for the internet information working groups, meet with CNI and discuss arrangements for effective liaison and participation. o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service (wnils) The IESG reviewed the wnils charter. The WHOIS protocol is widely implemented and the IESG is reluctant to sanction a major extension. The IESG is supportive of an effort to foster operational coordination and consistent information responses. ACTION: Hobby -- Contact the chair of the proposed WNILS Working Group and seek clarifications in the charter on the scope of the effort. o IP Encapsulation (ipae) The IESG reviewed the IPAE charter. With minor changes, the IESG approved the work plan, but will delay announcement of this working group until the IESG ROAD work plan is published as an Internet Draft. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IESG ROAD work plan, announce the IPAE Working Group to the IETF.