INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the October 2, 2003 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / IAB Liaison Randy Bush / IIJ Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / Nokia Bert Wijnen / Lucent REGRETS ------------ Steve Bellovin / AT&T Michelle Cotton / ICANN Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Alex Zinin / Alcatel MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the September 18, 2003 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Review of Action Items DONE: o Bill Fenner, Ted Hardie, and Thomas Narten to work out acceptable text to resolve ABNF and SRV issues. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Jon Peterson to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and send decision to IESG. o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level. o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim document review. o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorats and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group. o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. NEW: o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system. o Harald Alvestrand to discuss with Barbara Fuller the process of listing the scribes for IETF Meetings on WG charter Web pages. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-disman-conditionmib-10.txt - 1 of 9 Alarm Reporting Control MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-rmonmib-apm-mib-11.txt - 2 of 9 Application Performance Measurement MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-rfc2402bis-05.txt - 3 of 9 IP Authentication Header (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Jon Peterson, and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-esn-addendum-02.txt - 4 of 9 Extended Sequence Number Addendum to IPsec DOI for ISAKMP (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-esp-v3-06.txt - 5 of 9 IP Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Jon Peterson, and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-dnsext-keyrr-key-signing-flag-10.txt - 6 of 9 KEY RR Secure Entry Point Flag (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-ldup-lcup-06.txt - 7 of 9 LDAP Client Update Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement. o draft-ietf-nomcom-rfc2727bis-07.txt - 8 of 9 IAB and IESG Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the Nominating and Recall Committees (BCP) Token: Harald Alvestrand The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten and Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-ietf-dhc-suboptions-kdc-serveraddress-04.txt - 9 of 9 KDC Server Address Sub-option (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-ftpext-mlst-16.txt - 1 of 3 Extensions to FTP (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement. o draft-ietf-dhc-isnsoption-10.txt - 2 of 3 The IPv4 DHCP Options for the Internet Storage Name Service (Proposed Standard) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Alex Zinin.* o draft-ietf-avt-mpeg4-simple-08.txt - 3 of 3 RTP Payload Format for Transport of MPEG-4 Elementary Streams (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action announcement. 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-zeilenga-ldap-rfc2596-04.txt - 1 of 1 Language Tags and Ranges in LDAP (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ned Freed.* 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-isis-igp-p2p-over-lan-03.txt - 1 of 2 Point-to-point operation over LAN in link-state routing protocols (Informational) Token: Bill Fenner The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-magma-msf-api-05.txt - 2 of 2 Socket Interface Extensions for Multicast Source Filters (Informational) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-newton-ldap-whois-04.txt - 1 of 2 Domain Administrative Data in LDAP (Experimental) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-gill-gtsh-01.txt - 2 of 2 The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 1 Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* 3.3.3 To be assigned o draft-irtf-nsrg-report-10.txt What's In A Name:Thoughts from the NSRG (Informational): IRTF document. The document was assigned to Russ Housley. 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans) - 1 of 1 Token: Russ Housley The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference. 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Centralized Conferencing (xcon) - 1 of 1 Token: Allison Mankin The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 1 of 6 Token: Alex Zinin The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org, to include additional text to be provided by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference. o Mobility for IPv4 (mip4) - 2 of 6 Token: Thomas Narten The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement to include additional text to be provided by Thomas Narten. o Audio/Video Transport (avt) - 3 of 6 Token: Allison Mankin The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 4 of 6 Token: Thomas Narten The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending a revised charter to be provided by Thomas Narten. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp) - 5 of 6 Token: Alex Zinin The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org, to include additional text to be provided by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference. o Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) - 6 of 6 Token: Bert Wijnen The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference. 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 Appropriate Methods for getting Meeting Minutes from Chairs (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. 7.2 Interoperability Testing at IETF Meetings (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. 7.3 Referral of draft-klensin-name-filters-03.txt to the IAB (Ted Hardie) This management issue was discussed. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.